Alex Seal

Passenger Brake Vans

B Bogie Passenger Brake Van
BG Bogie Passenger Brake Van with gangway
BGZ Six-wheeled Passenger Brake Van with gangway
BY Four-wheeled Passenger Brake Van
BZ Six-wheeled Passenger Brake Van

BR Designs

GWR Designs

Dia. Year Lot Dimensions Running Numbers No. Cond. Notes    
K17 1903 1043 54ft 0¾in x 8ft 6¾in 1125-1128 4 Mar 54 Clerestory    
K18 1912 1204 57ft 0in x 9ft 0in 247-249 3       Cove Models
K19 1914 1241 57ft 0in x 9ft 0in 250-254 5        
K22 1915 1253 56ft 11¾in x 8ft 11¼in 255-256 38 Dec 62 Toplight W261W
W1145W
W1150W
Worsley Works £10.00
1922 1281 257-266
1921 1288 267
1922 1301 1129-1153
K34 1925 1344 57ft 0in x 9ft 0in 1156-1164 11   Toplight ex Ambulance Stock    
1345 1166-1168
K35 1925 1344 57ft 0in x 9ft 0in 1154-1155 2   Toplight ex Ambulance Stock    
K36     57ft 0in x 9ft 0in 1157-1163 7   ex Ambulance W1159W  
K37 1925 1345 56ft 11¾in x 8ft 11¼in 1165 1   Toplight ex Ambulance Stock    
K38 1926 1346 58ft 4½in x 8ft 11¼in 1169-1174 6   Bow ended Ocean Mails   Comet Models
K39 1926     255 1 Mar 57 To replace burnt out vehicle    
K40 1930 1413 61ft 4½in x 9ft 0in 1175-1184 50   Bow ended W1184W Comet Models
Taylor Precision Models
1931 1462 3/4/5/6/9/11/13/19/27/28
31-37/39/41/43/51/53/55-57
1933 1481 71-85
K41 1934 1495 57ft 0in x 9ft 0in 101-110 60     W111W
W184W
W185W
978-1-90029-806-3
N Gauge Society
1512 111-120
1935 1535 181-200
1936 1562 138-157
K42 1937 1604 57ft 0in x 8ft 11in 158-167 40     W98W
W276W
Comet Models
1940 1652 121-130
1945 1665 91-100
268-277
K44 1941 1667 59ft 10in x 8ft 11in 61-70 10     W64W  
K45 1949 1722 64ft 0in x 8ft 11in 290-299 35   Hawksworth
9ft Pressed Steel Bogies
W297W
W316W
Comet Models
Bill Bedford
BH Enterprises
Ultima Models
Ultima Models
Graham Farsh
978-1-90029-806-3
1950 1740 300-324
K46 1951 1752 64ft 0in x 8ft 11in 325-334 10   Hawksworth
9ft Pressed Steel Bogies
W333W
W334W
GWR O13
W1399W - http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=113

LMS Designs

Diag Lot Qty Date Built Dimensions
(L x W x H)
Period Running Numbers Withdrawals Remarks
First Last
1778 218 75 1925/6 Wolverton 50ft x 9ft 3in x 12ft 4 3/4in I 30400-30474 5/61 4/67 Lot 405 Plated 9ft 0in wide, Nos 30414 and 30458 to Bullion Vans 1953. Lot 405 may, originally, have contained 50 coaches. Panelled.
219 25 1926 N. Heath 30475-30499 10/59 9/67
405 49 1928 Wolverton 30500-30548 4/63 12/67
1715 291 50 1926/7 B'ham C&W 50ft x 9ft 3in x 12ft 4 3/4in I (All steel) 30549-30598 3/60 10/67 * plus 31948
Layout identical to D1778 but no conventional underframe - merely a battery support bracket at one side. Lot 292 was heavily riveted, remainder had less rivets but a prominent waist strip. The Birmingham C&W vehicles also has a top strip above the windows. All varieties had short rainstrips over the doors rather than a single end-to-end rainstrips.
292 50 1927 Met C&W 30599-30648 11/58 12/66
344 50 1928 Camm/Laird 30649-30698 3/57 one (30654) extant 1968
345 50 1927/8 B'ham C&W 30699-30747* 12/58 9/67
460 50 1929 B'ham C&W 30748-30797 8/58 4/68
461 50 1929 Camm/Laird 30798-30847 2/60 a few extant in 1968
536 30 1930 Metro Cammell 30848-30877 3/65
537 30 1930 B'ham C&W 30878-30907 7/63 1/68
1796 644 25 1932 Wolverton 31ft x 8ft 9in x 12ft 4 3/4in (six-wheel) III 32900-32924 3/65 majority extant 1968 Very early Stanier vehicles. Outshopped in full livery with torpedo vents. Beading strips at waist and above windows.
669 50 1933 Wolverton 32925-32974 9/63
1854 665 25 1932/3 Derby 50ft x 9ft 0in x 12ft 4 5/8in III 30908-30932 8/64 a few still extant 6/67 First Stanier version of the standard 50ft van. Lots 665/686 had full livery and torpedo vents. Lot 780 had torpedo vents but probably simple livery. Beading strips as with D1796.
686 25 1933 Derby 30933-30957 4/66
780 6 1934 Wolverton 30958-30963 2/66
2000 1091 25 1938 Wolverton 31ft x 9ft 0in x 12ft 4 5/8in (six-wheel) III 32975-32999 13/66 majority extant 1968 Officially 3in wider than D1796 but both types had standard 8ft 6in wide boy. Handbrake repositioned compared with D1796. Most had standard Period III shell vents but some had torpedo types.
1262 20 1940 Wolverton 33000-3019 8/64
2007 1096 25 1938 Wolverton 50ft x 9ft 0in x 12ft 4 5/9in III 30964-30988 3/65 Virtually all extant 1968 No apparent difference to D1854. From Lot 1290 upwards many were rated at 12T carry capacity (standard value 8T). Lots 1260/1 all plated 1939. Beading strips on bodyside seem to have finished with Lot 1305. Lot 1358 had second-hand underframes.
1097 25 1938/9 Wolverton 30989-31013 3/65
1198 25 1939 Wolverton 31014-31038 11/67
1260 20 1940 Derby 31039-31058 5/66
1261 50 1939/40 Wolverton 31059-31108 8/66
1304 50 1940/41 Derby 31109-31158 5/66
1305 50 1941 Wolverton 31159-31208 6/67
1357 110 1941 Wolverton 31210-31319 10/65
1358 4 1944 Wolverton 31320-31323 All extant 1968
1444 25 1947 Wolverton 31324-31348
2100 Part 1359 2 1944 Wolverton 57ft x 9ft 0in x 12ft 4 5/8in III 31900-31901 6/66 (31901) 31900 extant 1968 The 57ft wartime version on second hand underframes. All rated 12T capacity except 31900/1 which were 8T. This pair were given the underframes of ex-LNWR Royal coaches 5154/5. No beading on body side of this design.
Part 1359 34 1944 Wolverton 31902-31935 All extant 1968
2171 1508 25 1949/50 Wolverton 50ft x 9ft 0in x 12ft 4 5/8in III 31349-31373 All extant (except for accident withdrawls) in 1968 The postwar 50ft design. All rated 12T capacity but no fundermental differences from D1854/D2007. Exteriors had no raised beading strip. The vans hd BR type torpedo vents, all outshopped without LMS markings (many probably in BR Livery from new.)
1563 25 1949 Derby 31374-31398
1579 15 1950 Derby 31399-31413 5/68 Most extant 1968
1588 15 1950 Wolverton 31414-31428 3/65

D1715 Length: 50' Number built: 360 Period 1 Built: 1926-30 Last Withdrawn: 1970s Notes: All Steel
Running numbers: 30549-98 built 1927/8 BRCW; 30748-97 built 1929 BRCW; 30599-30648 built 1927 Metro. Cammell; 30798 30847 built 1929 Cammell Laird; 30648-98 built 1928 Cammell Laird; 30848-77 built 1930 Metro. Cammell (no bogie stepboards fitted to this batch); 30699-30747 built 1927/8 BRCW; 30878-30907 built 1930 BRCW.
Worsley Works
http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/data/Catalog/images/m10.jpg
http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/data/Catalog/pdf/M10.pdf

D1778
Length: 50' Number built: 149 Built: 1925-28 Last Withdrawn 1970 Notes: Panelled
Running numbers: 30400-30474 built 1925/6 Wolverton; 30475-30499 built 1926 Newton Heath; 30500-30548 built 1928 Wolverton; 30414 and 30548 converted to bullion vans 1953.
Worsley Works / Blacksmith Models / Ultima Models
http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/data/Catalog/images/m11.jpg
http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/data/Catalog/pdf/M11.pdf

D1796
Length: 31' Number built: 75 Built: 1932-3 Last withdrawn 1970s Notes: Six wheeled (Stove R)
Torpedo vents. Beading strips at waist and above windows.
Running numbers: 32900-32924 built 1932 Wolverton; 32925-32974 built 1933 Wolverton
Worsley Works
http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/data/Catalog/pdf/M59.pdf

D1854
Length: 50' Number built: 56 Built: 1932-4 Notes: Beading strip on sides
Running numbers: 30908-30932 built 1932/3 Derby; 30958-30963 built 1934 Wolverton; 30933-30957 built 1933 Derby
Worsley Works / Ultima Models
http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/data/Catalog/images/M56%2096dpi%20100pc.jpg
http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/data/Catalog/pdf/M56.pdf

D2000
Length: 31' Number built: 45 Built: 1938-40 Notes: Six wheeled (Stove R)
Most had shell vents.
Running numbers: 32975-32999 built 1938 Wolverton; 33000-33019 built 1940 Wolverton
Worsley Works
http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/data/Catalog/pdf/M59.pdf

D2007
Length: 50' Number built: 384 Built: 1938-47 Notes: Earlier examples had beading strips on side
30964-30988 built 1938 Wolverton; 31109-31158 built 1940/41 Derby; 30989-31013 built 1938/9 Wolverton; 31159-31319 built 1941 Wolverton; 31014-31038 built 1939 Wolverton; 31320-31323 built 1944 Wolverton; 31039-31050 built 1940 Derby; 31324-31348 built 1947 Wolverton; 31051-31108 built 1939/40 Wolverton
Ultima Models
http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/data/Catalog/images/M56%2096dpi%20100pc.jpg
http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/data/Catalog/pdf/M56.pdf

D2100
Length: 57' Number built: 36 Built: 1944

D2171
Length: 50' Number built: 80 Built: 1949-50 Notes: Externally identical to D2007.

D1714 - Ultima Models

D2130? - Ultima Models

 

LNER Designs

  Dia. Dimensions   Order Ordered Built Built
At
Running Numbers Total    
BG 43 61ft 6in x 9ft 0in Gresley     1924-28     14 Ultima Models  
45                
113 265 1928/9 1930-34 DR 70176-80
70193
34 N Gauge Society
Ultima Models
 
266 YK 70181/2
70160-4
70172-5
363 1930/1 DR 70191/2
395 70165-8
450 1931/2 DK 70186/7
496 1933 70183-5/8-90
573 1934 70169-71
198     1935          
245 1017 1940   YK 70426
70427-47
70513
41   978-1-90029-806-3
1073 70740/50-66
260 984 1939   YK 70533-8 29   978-1-90029-806-3
1018 1940 70530/1
70539/40/2-4/8
70532
70545-7/9
1059 70741-70749 / 67
1061 -
315 61ft 6in x 8ft 11½in 983 1939   YK 70477-81/3-98
70511/2
23    
327 61ft 6in x 9ft 0in Thompson Matchboard 1123 1944 1945-6 YK 70584-70626 53 Ultima Models
Comet Models
 
70627-70633
1142 special 70634
1152 special DL 70635
1153 special 70636
344 63ft 0in x 9ft 3in Thompson 1180 1946 1947-50 YK 13-19
100-8/10
32 Ultima Models
Ultima Models
Comet Models
978-1-90029-806-3
B 67 51ft 1½in Gresley         E70070E-E70075E 6   978-1-90029-806-3
978-1-905505-33-3
129 51ft 1½in         70251-70254 26   978-1-905505-33-3
70255-70274
70275-70276
284 52ft 6in         70561-70564 5   978-1-905505-33-3
70567
BY 86 32ft 0in x 8ft 11½in   125 1925/6   SF 700079-70100
70101-30
52    
87   160 1926/7   70132-6/8-44 42    
120 32ft 0in x 9ft 0in Gresley 212/25 1927/8 1928 70194-70207
    978-0-85153-320-9
978-1-90029-806-3
267 70208-22
170                    
176                    
BZ 358 32ft 0in x 8ft 11¾in Thompson (6-wheel) 1284 1950 1950 DL / SF 70647-70726 80 Comet Models
Ultima Models
Ultima Models
978-0-85153-320-9
978-1-90029-806-3
                       
BG 111 52ft 6in Gresley (154 / 282?)     1928          
BG 154 52ft 6in                  
BG 282 52ft 6in                  
? 293 51ft 1½in ex GNR (307?)               978-1-90029-806-3
? 307 51ft 1½in                  
978-0-85153-320-9, 978-0-85153-320-9, 978-0-85153-320-9, 978-0-85153-320-9, 978-0-85153-320-9

SR Designs

Type Dia.   Built          
B 3093 "50'" 1938 350-399 50 368-399 fitted with stoves, identified by orange panels Ultima Models 978-0-85153-320-9
978-1-90029-806-3
978-1-905505-33-3
1939 201-250 50  
1952/53 251-280 30 (minor detail differences)